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2010 Top 50 Draft Prospects | Future Scout Sully
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November 02, 2009 05:56 PM 
 
Here is my list of the Top 50 in the class. I have seen almost every one of these players. Went out to AFLAC for the week, saw team usa play, and went to many cape games.
1- Bryce Harper
2- Jameson Taillon
3- Anthony Ranaudo
4- Drew Pomeranz
5- AJ Cole
6- Christian Colon
7- Stetson Allie
8- Matt Harvey
9-Brandon Workman
10- DeAndre Smelter
11- Nick Castellanos
12- Chris Sale
13-Bryce Brentz
14-LeVon Washington
15- Karsten Whitson
16- Manny Machado
17-Kevin Keyes
18- Zack Cox
19- Cameron Bedrosian
20- Yordy Cabrera
21-Jedd Gyorko
22-Austin Wilson
23-Dylan Covey
24-James Paxton
25- Vic Sanchez
26- Deck MaGuire
27-Josh Sale
28-Yasmani Grandal
29-Brett Eibner
30- Stefan Sabol
31-Jesse Hahn
32-Garin Cecchini
33- Kevin Gausman
34-Jake Eliopoulos
35- Kevin Ziomek
36- Brian Ragira
37-AJ Vanegas
38-Seth Blair
39-Andy Wilkins
40- Chad Bettis
41- Zach Alvord
42- Sam Dyson
43- Kris Bryant
44-Justin O'Conner
45- Tyler Holt
46-Micah Gibbs
47- Josh Osich
48- Alex Wimmers
49-Sammy Solis
50- Trey Griffin
Let me know what you guys think
[This message was edited by Future Scout Sully on November 05, 2009 at 07:31 PM.]
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10 | From: Belchertown, MA, USA | Registered: October 31, 2009 |
| Mack's Mets
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November 03, 2009 11:51 AM
Good list.
I added it to my website as part of my year long anaysis of the draft.
Mack
www.macksmets.blogspot.com
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3 | From: Hardeeville | Registered: November 03, 2009 |
| blackout
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November 04, 2009 05:00 PM
That's a really good start. Two guys stick out:
What's got you so high on DeAndre Smelter? Top 50 no problem. Top 10? That seems aggressive but I'm intrigued.
Jedd Gyorko is a guy I hope exceeds expectations, but he's pretty unanimously getting the utility inf tag right now. 21 might be a little hopeful?
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| Future Scout Sully
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November 05, 2009 09:47 AM
Smelter is a personal favorite of mine. I got to see him pitch a lot when I was in San Diego for the week watching the AFLAC kids and he really impressed me. Taillon was the obvious number 1 pitcher, but after that I had a group of 5 RHPs who were in that next level.Cole, Allie, Smelter, Whitson, and Bedrosian.
Smelter is a great athlete, who hides the ball well. Love his size, and demeanor on the mound. He repeats his delivery well. Once he is comitted to just baseball, he will get even better.
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10 | From: Belchertown, MA, USA | Registered: October 31, 2009 |
| blackout
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posted
November 05, 2009 02:11 PM
And Gyorko?
I like what I've seen of Smelter but haven't seen anywhere near enough to weigh in. The guy I'm pimping is Covey. I like him as well or better than all the HS RHPs for 2010 with the exceptions of Taillon and Cole. If you were there for Aflac then you saw him in action, and that was a good viewing as he was in top form that day.
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| PG Staff
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November 05, 2009 03:45 PM
blackout,
All the players mentioned are high end prospects. I agree with you completely reagrding Covey. Also, another pitcher who really stood out at Aflac, but he doesn't seem to get mentioned much, is Kaleb Cowart. That kid has a very special arm and he has a lot of room to get bigger and stronger.
All these lists that keep popping up (for the most part) involve the same names we have been listing for a long time already. When I have some time we will show the number of these players on all the various lists that attended one single showcase event... The (Perfect Game National Showcase). That is pretty much all the high school kids listed and most of the college kids as well.
It would be interesting to see a list that someone made out before June of the PG National. That would show us something. BTW, that is exactly what we have to do, in order to invite players to the National. They are invited more than a full year before their draft year. And it always ends up being those same guys on every list! HMMMM!
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2855 | Registered: August 10, 2001 |
| PG Staff
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November 05, 2009 05:01 PM
I don't have a problem with what "Future Scout Sully" has posted, but here is what I mean.
1- Bryce Harper - #1 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
2- Jameson Taillon - #1 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
3- Anthony Ranaudo - #57 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
4- Drew Pomeranz - #155 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player
5- AJ Cole - #2 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
6- Christian Colon - #39 - Invited to PG National as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
7- Stetson Allie - #5 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
8- Matt Harvey - #4 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
9- Brandon Workman - #118 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
10- DeAndre Smelter - #5 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
11- Nick Castellanos - #16 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
12- Chris Sale - #1084 - Attended multiple PG events
13- Bryce Brentz - #364 - Attended multiple PG events
14- LeVon Washington - #38 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
15- Karsten Whitson - #4 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
16- Manny Machado - #16 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
17- Kevin Keyes - #107 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
18- Zack Cox - #47 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
19- Cameron Bedrosian - #14 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
20- Yordy Cabrera - #6 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
21-Jedd Gyorko – Not ranked, never been to a PG event.
22- Austin Wilson - #17 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
23- Dylan Covey - #3 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
24-James Paxton - #668 – Invited but never attended a PG event
25- Vic Sanchez - #67 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
26- Derek McGuire - #286 (If this is Deck Maguire) - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
27- Josh Sale - #15 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
28- Yasmani Grandal - #38 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
29- Brett Eibner - #255 - Attended multiple PG events
30- Stefan Sabol - #23 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
31- Jesse Hahn - #540 - Attended multiple PG events
32- Garin Cecchini - #31 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
33- Kevin Gausman - #12 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
34- Jake Eliopoulos - #99 Attended multiple PG events
35- Kevin Ziomek - #37 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
36- Brian Ragira - #18 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
37- AJ Vanegas - #20 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
38- Seth Blair - #88 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
39- Andy Wilkins - #132 - Attended multiple PG events
40- Chad Bettis - #202 - Attended multiple PG events
41- Zach Alvord - #24 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
42- Sam Dyson - #33 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
43- Kris Bryant - #9 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
44- Justin O'Conner - #10 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
45- Tyler Holt - #273 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
46- Micah Gibbs - #313 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
47- Josh Osich - #85 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
48- Alex Wimmers - #791 - Attended multiple PG events
49- Sammy Solis - #80 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events
50- Trey Griffin - #40 - Invited to PG National Showcase as HS player - Attended multiple PG events - Aflac All American selected by PG
This is not meant to discredit “Future Scout Sully’s” list, it’s a good list, but look at all lists that are out there and will be out there (including the one posted here earlier) and you will find a very common thread. A little jockeying around but the same names that PG has had listed for a very long time.
It would be even more apparent if we compared the lists to the draft projection lists we have released on pgcrosschecker.
Above list Shows 1 (ONE) player who had never attended a PG event or been ranked by PG. One other player had never attended a PG event, but was ranked by PG..
24 of the above 50 were selected as Aflac All Americans by PG. 80% of that list are players who had been invited to the PG National Showcase. That means we had to identify them before they played their junior year in high school.
48 of the 50 had played in multiple PG events. Every list out there will have somewhat the same exact story. We can prove it! We basically identify all the players long before the lists start to come out. Even the very last and most important list (The Draft) shows 80% of all players drafted have been ranked and have attended PG events. It’s actually been over 90% of all first round picks over the past 8 years.
Not sure what, if anything, all this means! People say they get information from all kinds of places, but truth is, everyone who does these things gets their information from us… one way or another, because if they didn't get it directly from us, the place they got it from, got it from us.
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| Future Scout Sully
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November 05, 2009 06:14 PM
You guys are the best in the business at what you do. I try to get information from everywhere. I see these guys for myself when I can, and, like you guys do I make my rankings. All of the best players have gone to PG Showcases because they know what they are getting, a lot of exposure. Most rankings are similar at this point. It is still very early
[This message was edited by Future Scout Sully on November 05, 2009 at 06:32 PM.]
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10 | From: Belchertown, MA, USA | Registered: October 31, 2009 |
| Future Scout Sully
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November 05, 2009 08:04 PM
I haven't seen your full rankings yet. I would love to see how they compare. This is what makes the draft fun for people, seeing all of the different lists and making your own analysis on them.
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10 | From: Belchertown, MA, USA | Registered: October 31, 2009 |
| blackout
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November 06, 2009 11:30 AM
I definitely accord full respect to the work at PG. The only reason I've been following Covey (and Cowart as well, though he's currently more athletic than polished imo: Ethan Martin comes to mind) is because he was on your 2010 Top 10 list last year. You also had Taillon #1 before anyone else I read, so believe me, I have a lot of faith in you folks.
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| blackout
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November 06, 2009 11:34 AM
And yes, Sully's list definitely includes most of the usual suspects. As long as that's the case, the order is really a matter of specific insights or personal opinion/instinct, right? I'd love it if these forums were filled with great lists and discussions of them.
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